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03/22/18 08:32 AM #5618    

 

Glen Hirose

Jack, like the “Little Girl” the invisible wounds you carried back from the war would have been just as lethal to a lesser man.  Many thanks for sharing this poignant story...


03/22/18 12:48 PM #5619    

 

Jane Cosson (Souzon)

Jack, your essay about the little girl was beautiful and had so many coincidences it made me want to write about what happened to me last week.  My partner had given me voice lessons as a birthday gift, which was a pretty far out idea, as i had been dubbed a 'non-singer' very early in life, for good reason.  Partner got the idea at Christmas when I said I wished we had a big Messiah sing along here in Eugene, as I had attended in the early days of the Kennedy Center, feeling safe there because there were so many people to drown me out.   (We have a small one here, but no chorus or orchestra to lead us, so i could hear myself--arghh).  The voice teacher he got me was pretty unconventional, and she began by asking me to make a list of my 10 favorite songs and singers.  Immediately i knew that no. 1 would be Simon and Garfunkle's 'The Boxer'.  I've always not just loved it, but i now realize, been haunted by it.  In the course of my lesson, teacher and i discussed my old question, "what precisely is it about a given piece of  music that moves us?  the words? the voices? the notes? the chords? harmonies?"  and whatever the answer to that  is, a further ..why?  (think i raised this before re Pachelbel).  Anyway, my homework assignment was to play The Boxer, and sing along with it, over and over.   I choked up every time i tried to sing with it, further pressing the question of "why?" At first all i could think was that it was just a sad story, of a person 'down and out' ( pardon the pun).   But then i focussed on the last line, 'the fighter still remains...' and thought maybe that was the key, the idea that no matter what, we have to pick ourselves up and go on.  But still, why would that idea evoke such emotion?  Then it hit me,  it wasn't 'the idea' of it, it was the experience of it, as a 23 year old widow, of having to go on when my whole identity/'self' was instantly gone. The choking up suddenly turned to gasping sobs, and the words that came out were 'you poor little girl'.  I hadn't let myself be that ' poor little girl' at the time, i think being afraid that such vulnerability would result in completely dissolving--so i had to put up enough wall around me to 'carry on'.    And of course the song was at its height in March of 1970, so it evokes that whole period that Jack describes.  Weirdest coincidence:  this whole Boxer-breakdown thing happened a week ago, 48 years to the day that PR-26 crashed at DaNang. (thanks for listening, more tears, but i think its a good thing.)


03/22/18 12:55 PM #5620    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

Wow. My admiration grows. 


03/22/18 03:43 PM #5621    

 

Robert Hall

The older one gets the smaller the world gets. Four years ago when I mentioned the crash that took Jane's husband to a friend (and distant cousin of my wife's) he remembered it immediately. He was part of a "special unit" like her husband's of Navy flight crews that was stationed next to PR26. They had different, but dangerous and anonymous missions like Jay's unit. And they "lost" crew members with little public notice as well. Jay may have died in a tragic plane crash at Da Nang, but he and his crew mates risked their lives on every "routine" mission that he wasn't allowed to talk about.

03/22/18 06:36 PM #5622    

 

Jack Mallory

Thanks to you all for your reflections on my writing--especially your deeply felt recollections, Jane. 

I wrote this in about 1995, after visiting D.C. for a conference. Dedicated to you, Jane. You're on the Big Wall. 

 

    A Night Visit to The Wall

 

 

    It was night, and most of the ice on the Washington sidewalks had melted by the time I walked from my hotel down to The Wall.  This was my second trip in as many days: a day earlier Carolyn and I had visited the memorial, set starkly against the brilliant snow. The black granite of The Wall had absorbed the sun's heat, and the names had been warm to the touch. It was now as dark as it had been bright the day before.

 

    I'd been to The Wall perhaps a dozen times: from the ground breaking to the dedication, and numerous times after.  But I’d never gone alone, and never at night.  Now, I wanted to be there by myself, without crowds.  Time to think my own thoughts, and not answer someone else's questions; time to be alone with The Wall, to make it mine, and not share it with the tourists.

 

    I crossed Constitution Avenue near the State Department and headed down towards the Mall. As I passed a side street, a Vietnam Veterans Memorial sign suddenly flared a deep arterial red.  Shook me up, and it took a minute to figure out the red was a reflection of the stop light on the green of the Park Service sign. I wondered if this visit was a good idea. I zipped my jacket to my throat, colder than the temperature warranted.

 

    Like I said, The Wall and I are old acquaintances.  But it's been a sort of distant friendship; we've never spent any time alone together.  This time I wanted to get a little closer.  There were parts of the Wall I wanted to spend some time with. 

 

    The closest I can get to the dead I knew is by visiting those panels.  The panels that encompass my tour of duty, and those 11th Armored Cavalry troopers who died between May of 1969 and May of 1970. I didn't know most of them, but I remember some of them well: especially Don Holman, the young lieutenant finishing his tour as a tank platoon leader, and Stuart Lamkin, the lieutenant I sent out one morning to replace him.  They were ambushed north of Tay Ninh a few hours later, riding the same tank. An RPG round killed both of them. First day in the field for Stuart, last day for Don. I had to write their folks.

 

    The little girl's panel is different. Her name's not on it, not on this Wall; she was Vietnamese.  But sometimes I think of our Wall as the little Wall; there's a bigger Wall, much, much bigger, in my head.  It's got all the American names, and the Vietnamese names, and Cambodian, and Laotian, and Korean, and Australian names.  All the names.  Soldiers and civilians.  Not just the dead, but their parents, and brothers and sisters and husbands and wives and children and friends.  All the dead, and all those who loved them, and whose lives were shattered by the war.  It's a big Wall.

 

    So, I visited my panels, alone in the dark.  I touched every one of them.  They were cold, now. It was dark, and the lighting was dim; I couldn't see myself in the Wall, like you can during the day.  I crouched and read names from the lowest lines, and peered to read the highest lines I could.  These are the names most people never see, never read.  I wanted to read these little-read names, the names of those in the margins of history.

 

    Then, still alone, I walked the length of the Wall, reading a name from every panel.  Doing this myself, alone, made the Wall mine for a little while.  No wife, no friends, no other vets, no tourists.  Just me, and the names on this Wall, and the names, all the names, on the big Wall in my head.

 

    A quiet foursome walked down the path toward me, and my time alone was over.  So I left the Wall and walked over to the Women's Memorial.  I had seen it the day before for the first time, but access to it had been blocked off because of the sheet of ice all around.  That night I circled it, to see the side I had been unable to see earlier. The image of the nurse kneeling over the wounded soldier's helmet symbolized all the anguish of nurses' accounts of their war.

 

    Then I walked over to the statue of the three infantrymen.  I had resented its addition to the Memorial, already perfect in its simple eloquence, and never paid much attention to “The Three Dudes” as some vets refer to it.  But that night, still alone, I spent time there.  My initial interest was accuracy: did the sculptor get them "right?"  My eyes wandered over uniforms and gear:  yup, they look grungy enough; flak jacket, boonie hat, funky fatigues. 

 

    My eye and my memory were hooked by the M-16 of the trooper on the right.  My hand still knows the weight, the feel of the plastic and steel. I remembered the old omnipresence of the weapon--as much a part of my daily wear as a wallet, for that long year. I stepped over the chain and grabbed the forestock in my left hand, cradled the butt under my arm, grabbed the pistol grip in my right hand.  It still felt strangely, "right."  It still "fit" me, nearly 25 years later. Glad I'll never have to carry one again, but glad also, somehow, that I once carried it, and that my memory carries it still.

 

    My self-consciousness finally intruded, reminding me that I looked a fool standing there grasping a statue's rifle.  I slipped back over the chain, and headed toward my hotel.  But before I left I walked to the center of that broad V and simply said, “Bye, guys."  And saluted, and turned, and walked away.

 

 

********************

 

My writing workshop was full of young(er than me) men and women who have served in our endless wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere; I meet with half a dozen others weekly in a VA therapy group. I hope my writing suggests ways for them to deal with their own little girls, whatever form they may take. Nearly 20 years, now, of ongoing war, much of it as unclearly--or dishonestly--justified as the Vietnam War. More American deaths, more little girls. Another Big Wall. 

 

03/23/18 09:20 AM #5623    

 

Irene Kovakas (Creed)

Dear All...I haven't been checking in on the site for some time and happened to do so yesterday.  I was so very moved by The Little Girl posting and wanted to add my thanks to Jack Mallory for this posting and say that words are not enough to thank him for his service and empathize with his experience, one that none of us who were safe back hom while he and others were enduring the horrors of war.  Gives me pause to think about those days and about what could be our future with our bonkers president and his new bud Bolton.  OMG! What has become of us?!  Hope to see many of you at the march tomorrow.


03/23/18 03:33 PM #5624    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I just read Jane's moving account and Jack's about his visit to the Vietnam War Memorial. Thank you both for sharing your feelings with us. You both speak from the heart and it matters so much what you said. Thank you. Love, Joanie


03/23/18 04:01 PM #5625    

 

Jane Cosson (Souzon)

Nori and Robert, thanks--Robert i'd forgotten you knew about PR26.  I've often wondered what those guys did all day when they weren't flying. I'll never forget the day I had been at the Officers' Wives' Club for lunch at our home base in Atsugi Japan, and the wives were talking about our guys flying over Russia, and when Jay came home that night i said, lightly,  "how were things over Russia today dear?",  and he nearly fainted.  (this was about one year after his squadron had lost another spy plane, the one that was big news,  shot down over N. Korea.)

Jack, thanks for another moving essay--these days, it seems a miracle that something as perfect as The Wall was ever built, it was the exact right thing to do.  I didn't feel up to attending the grand opening, but have been several times since (and have the "coffee table book" on it!)  Will definitely go again the next time i'm home.  The traveling version was here in Eugene a couple of years ago, but not remotely the same impact-- due not just smaller size, but location, location, location--not at the heart of the nation's capital, where hopefully, it will be seen and remembered by all.

Speaking of 'home', if i can drone on about my favorite topic again,  that's one word that i've often suspected of being a musical 'trigger'--its a piece of The Boxer's power, but i've noticed my reaction to it in other songs too.  Wonder why, I'm not aware of any 'leaving home' traumas in my life.  We moved from Iowa to Bethesda when i was 7, but it felt like a grand adventure to me at the time, and i've ever since considered  Bethesda as "home", and called Iowa my "roots".  So i'm trying to understand the power of 'home' in more universal terms, trying to get from psychology to biology/chemistry.  I've read that the most basic function of cells/living things--or even non-living,everything in the universe--is to fly apart and recombine; then i equate 'recombine' with 'go home'.   Any scientists out there want to comment?  


03/23/18 05:03 PM #5626    

 

Glen Hirose

   Thought I'd leave us with something to smile about;

   Image result for birthday balloons for bob

   My memory is failing; I can only see the big type; hearing is kaput, but I still can remember the subs at Continental.  Let's visit there soon.   


03/23/18 08:09 PM #5627    

 

Jack Mallory

Again, I thank folks for their kind words. In lieu of thanking me for my service, I encourage folks to do everything they can to demand that the government abide by the Constitution and wage war only when declared by Congress. A Congressional Declaration of War suggests some small right of the electorate to decide when we send our troops off to kill and be killed. We have experienced almost 20 years of undeclared killing and casualties, with no end in sight. And now, as Irene notes, the possiblity of an even larger and more destructive war rests in the hands of an unstable president who increasingly surrounds himself with advisors who urge war while never having seen it themselves.

We can rightly think of our parents as having provided true service during World War II. But participating in a war is not always "service" either to the nation or the world. Our generation should know that, and we have  the responsibility to continually reinforce that lesson with our children and grandchildren. That is a service that we can continue to offer.

*************

An aerodynamic pair of mergansers cruises the Contoocook.


03/23/18 08:09 PM #5628    

 

Brian Norcross

Jack and Jane,  I just want to thank you for sharing your recent posts on this forum.  Reading them has once again reminded me of the sacrifices of all the men and women and their families who served during the Vietnam War.  The Vietnam Veterans Memorial draws me back to it everytime I visit my brother and sister who still live in Maryland, and whenever I hear The Boxer, I feel like I am taken right back to the time I spent in the Army while stationed in Japan.  I’ll never forget playing The Bridge Over Troubled Water album over and over again the week before I left home for my assignment at Camp Zama in Japan.  The songs from that album still haunt me whenever I hear one of them on the radio.

Brian Norcross

 

 

 

 


03/23/18 08:17 PM #5629    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Jane, re Speaking of 'home',  -- well I'll put on my "theoretical astrophysics" hat and SPECULATE.  (That is a lot of what's fun in that field: You get a little bit of data and then try to find a consistent story for it.  On occasion, new data actually fits what you come up with smiley )   I think of all those 19th century songs  featuring "home", and then Carl Sagan's "pale blue dot", "the only home we've ever known".  The heartfelt appeal is pretty damn universal.  I dunno about the dispersing and "recombining" part  in the appeal -- yet, but that is a recurring theme throughout cosmology, (where the bringing together and recombing is due to gravity), and biology (where the bringing together and recombining is due to the self-organizing principles of life itself).  Dispersion is the natural result of the second law of thermodynamics -- that entropy increases.  So many higher animal life forms , fish, birds, whales, seals, even some butterflies,  that can roam far and wide try mightily to return to their places of  birth to mate and reproduce.  Evolution has clearly played a strong hand in making this happen, and had to wire up the nervous systems of all those various creatures to do so.  I'll bet our human nervous systems have a lot of that wiring built in.   Music strikes resonances in our neurology -- that is what the musician/composer is trying to do, without a first-principles theory but with a lot of rules-of-thumb.  

That appeal is why we admire the folks who got on the Mayflower, or left Ireland, or Italy, or eastern Europe, for the new world, or who took the Oregon trail.  Yes, they were often fleeing really bad stuff and not just seeking better opportunities, but nevertheless they had to overcome that home appeal and be willing to make a new home. That is why I've often thought refugees could make the best new citizens -- they've proved their courage and resourcefulness.

Well that's enough speculation from me!


03/24/18 07:12 AM #5630    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I'm Going to the March for Our Lives.....I'll represent any of us that can't make it....Love, Joanie


03/24/18 09:23 AM #5631    

 

Nancy Webster (Emery)

Thanks Joanie... I wish I could go with you. 


03/24/18 10:02 AM #5632    

 

Robert Hall

Thanks for the birthday greetings Glen. God speed Joanie. You've got our support.

03/24/18 12:39 PM #5633    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Might have seen you Joanie in that huge crowd on TV this AM.  GOOD SHOW!  The turnout has lifted many, many spirits.


03/24/18 02:13 PM #5634    

 

Jane Cosson (Souzon)

Got a couple of hours before the gun march starts here in Oregon, and i  plan to go despite dire weather forecast.  Stephen, thanks for taking a crack at my quest for return to 'first principles' (a phrase i hadn't heard since law school--now realize how much it/they intrigue me).  THeoretical physics seems beyond me, but I am currently wading thru Carl Sagan's "Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors", which definitely gets back to basics. 

    And speaking of ancestors, Nori i think a while back you asked if anyone had tried the geneology websites, and what result.  I did try ancestry.com, then New England Historical Geneology Society, supposedly the oldest geneo. org, but didn't get far.  Finally took a class at our community college this winter, and teacher knew all the search websites but liked best for beginners " familysearch.org.", which belongs to the Mormons.  I did find it very user friendly, but was still overwhelmed by the specific searches i wanted to do, so, i'm embarrassed to say, i've hired the teacher to do them for me.  (Its not all my aging brain's fault! Those darn ancestors just kept using the same first names generation after generation, so its hard to keep track of which generation you're on.  They would even use the same name in same generation--when one child died, they'd use the name for the next child; plus everyone died a lot, so there were often multiple spouses.)

    I first got interested in geneo. when visiting the John Day Fossil Beds here, and saw a pamphlet there in the visitors' center about one Charles Othniel Marsh, who had been one of the original leaders of the fossil digs at John Day, back in Darwin's time.  Darwin credited those digs with being 'the best support for the theory of evolution, " and some of those fossils were part of the original collection at the Peabody Museum at Yale.  I have Marsh ancestors from new england, and at first thought i would like to find myself related to him, but have since learned maybe he wasn't such a nice guy.  PBS did a piece on his rivalry with one ED Cope, as they plotted and schemed against each other to get credit for the fossils, and how this fight bankrupted both of them. 

    Anyway, if anyone wants to get into geneo., i do recommend the website, plus even here in little Eugene,  there's a Mormon geneo. library willing to help anyone. 


03/24/18 02:29 PM #5635    

 

Jane Cosson (Souzon)

Brian, wow you were at Camp Zama!  I took our dog to the vet there to get even more shots beyond std. rabies, since the Japanese were so cautious about it and we did live among them, 'on the economy',  outside the base.   .Also at Xmas the wives' club made a visit to the wards of wounded soldiers at the hospital there --i believe  it was the first stop for those coming in from  VIetnam.  We took cookies,etc. and tried to 'spread cheer', but it was hard to keep looking cheerful when we saw some of the wounds--could  not believe some of those guys were still alive.


03/24/18 02:34 PM #5636    

 

Jack Mallory

Concord, NH contributed several hundred people, kids, and dogs to the March Against Violence. Thanks to all who marched and supported elsewhere. 

 

 

 

Lots of teachers there, expressing a complete unwillingness to go armed in their classrooms. I carried a weapon for a year, and taught high school for over 20 years. The two don't mix.


03/24/18 04:09 PM #5637    

 

Nancy Webster (Emery)

The demonstation today "March for Our LIves" was very powerful. God bless our youth who deserve better and are working towards a significant change. .I hope the momentum today in DC and across the country doesn't go away. I personally thought the lawmakers would institute change after those babies  (first and second graders)who were shot and killed at Sandy Hook. After five years... nothing. So I pray this movement by HS kids will spark a real change in the minds of the people in the congress and senate by recreating the  gun laws .that will  end the violence ...,plus work on  getting more mental health programs established. The kids today do not want to be known as the "mass" shooting generation.

Let me add.... that crowd was amazing., organized and peaceful. The message was loud and clear. Enough is Enough.


03/24/18 04:16 PM #5638    

 

Stephen Hatchett

What a lift to watch (on MSNBC or CNN) the final hour today of the March in Washington.  A few weeks ago I think I mentioned here how my eyes tear up more for good things nowadays.  That happened a lot!  Those young people, and all who marched today,  are the  country I am so lucky to live in. 


03/24/18 06:20 PM #5639    

 

Jack Mallory

Stephen--I was also moved by the voices of the young people who spoke. It's beyond shameful that denizens of the cess pools of the far right denigrate young victims of tragic gun violence as "crisis actors," accusing them of being motivated by money for sincerely acting on their First Amendment rights.. 

The same kinds of dishonest charges were made by racists against the Little Rock Nine--accused of being paid by the NAACP to desegregate Central High School. Honest opposition to segregation was condemned as the actions of "outside agitators." Martin Luther King was falsely accused of being a communist. Similarly, during the Vietnam War the right charged anti-war protesters with being cowardly dupes or paid agents of communism.

And now "crisis actors." The theme is clear. When the right is so desperately bereft of rational or honest argument it turns to lies--inspired, or at least reinforced, by the dishonesty of the current president. "I will not let you down," he has promised Infowars head Alex Jones, complimenting the promoter of "Pizzagate" and other insane conspiracy theories on his "amazing" reputation.

The eloquence of the Parkland students reminds me of many of the students I am proud to have taught. In a nation where we are lucky to get more than half of our potential voters to participate in a presidential election, it's wonderful to see a new generation taking strong political action--driven, admittedly, by the failure of many of their elders to take action of their own. 


03/24/18 06:29 PM #5640    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Thank you to others who were at Marches if they were able to attend. I just got back from the DC March For Our Lives. It was so moving and inspiriing to hear from the young people whose voices are loud and clear that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH... A change is coming. . Martin Luther King's nine year old granddaughter was there speaking and she led the crowd in a chant calling for change. She mentioned that she had a dream that enough is enough! Her grandfather would have been so proud of her.  . It was a hopeful day visually with the cherry blossoms around and the sun warming the crowd. Chants could be heard periodically of "Vote then out...Vote them out.". This is a movement and nothing can stop it and its gathering steam..People were all around with signs saying register to vote, and they would help anyone who needed help. I was so inspired by the young people. Love, Joanie


03/24/18 08:14 PM #5641    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Sone names to watch from today for the "Nvertheless she persisted!." Hall of Heroines:  Emma Gonzales and Yolanda Renee. King.  And like Jack ponts out, they will be, and have been villified --- but that has already backfired, 


03/24/18 10:28 PM #5642    

 

Jane Cosson (Souzon)

Police Estimate of the crowd size here in Eugene OR (pop 160,000) was "upwards of 5000".


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