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02/14/20 12:13 PM #10772    


Joan Ruggles (Young)

Abuse of Power - "A misuse of power by someone in a position of authority who can use the leverage they have to oppress persons in an inferior position or to induce them to commit a wrongful act."


If the term is being misused or overused maybe DT should stop abusing his power. I think the definition is pretty clear. 

I too find your use of a run down hospital in Venezuela less than amusing. Maybe you find it hilarious but I find it sad. And the mansion? I don't get the point of that. Just looks like a bunch of houses in Beverly Hills where I guarantee no politicians live. We appear to have VERY different senses of humor.


02/14/20 01:01 PM #10773    


Glen Hirose


   No goalie wants his hockey career defined by a photo taken giving up the 700th goal. 

   Image result for ovechkin scoring


02/14/20 02:50 PM #10774    


Jack Mallory

Thanks for documenting the bullshit in that meme, Joan. I don't think referring to a deceptive post like that as a lie is at all exaggerated: a deliberate, false statement intended to mislead. Clearly, the person who creates bogus memes is a liar; what to call those who disseminate lies? 

I assume most memes that masquerade as facts are lies. Sometimes I bother to check, like you did, much of the time, especially if the person passing them on has a lousy record for truth, I just go with my assumption. 

As Snopes says in the fact check you cite (thanks again), "Rather than accurately depicting the impacts of socialism, this meme is perhaps a better example of how images can be taken out of context, re-captioned, and repackaged in order to spread a political agenda."

Two of the photographs purporting to show the horrors of life in socialist societies are from a capitalist society--the U. S. The other is not of a politician's home, but a luxury hotel. 

When people refuse to use readily available facts, data, to further a political agenda and choose to use falsities instead, two questions come to mind:

1. Is their agenda so weak that only lies will support it?

2. Are they so dishonest, and lazy, that it's just easier to make things up than do honest research to support their argument?

If the answer to either or both is yes, we can disbelieve future undocumented assertions on their part. Unless, like me, we like to think that someday pigs will fly. 

02/14/20 06:57 PM #10775    


Glen Hirose

   Image result for flying pig logo

            This is certainly not for everybody; I would guess they vet candidates thoroughly.

02/14/20 07:37 PM #10776    


Jack Mallory

Or Flying Pig Air Force? 


02/15/20 05:54 AM #10777    


Jack Mallory

4 billion dollars in our taxes going to support IMPOTUS's re-election. Ten times the amount he tried to use to leverage election support in Ukraine. 


02/15/20 08:14 AM #10778    


Nora Skinker (Morton)

Yes, it showed with hyperbole the distinctions tween the 'have nots' vs. the disportionate rich in a corrupt nation such as Abaco, Bahamas. To illustrate the vast differences in our world & their's, the photos are exaggerated but not by much. Nassau's parliament lives like kings. The citizens there could be modeling in that photographed hospital (really a "walk-in & wait forever clinic"). Snooty germ freak that I was & still am, after waiting in the local vet's office with Bimini (my yellow Labrador) I went to the desk & told them I was leaving. The place was so filthy & so stench-filled that I grabbed my pooch & abruptly drove home to take a long soapy bath together. She developed (kennel cough) from the bacterialized vet floor. Not all was lost as it was a catalyst to my selling my house after 12 years. Before heading out, I would lose 66% of it's worth in taxes with which the handful of corrupt Parliamentarians could get even fatter. Worse, I would sadly lose a good Abaconian friend to a heart attack who would have been resuscitated in an ambulance had he been in the States. There are no ambulances in Abaco. Or were none 10 years ago. But I would then head home to the States, where prices & taxes & standards are something people cannot fathom until they've seen the world. Wolfgang's Germany has a 45% income tax rate. Gas prices in Germany are double ours. Abaco gas is triple ours. They may tout single-pay healthcare but when it's substandard & taxes are to the moon, a population pays heavily for it. JMHO. Footnote: refreshing to hear from Jack that a VA hospital is an excellent service facility. Things are looking up! 
SOO, somebody be brave & switch from Trump bashing to telling us why the Democratic Party is so great & who's particularly great as a candidate. Please? I would think the Jays would be a-buzz! Not motivated?

02/15/20 08:31 AM #10779    


Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Trump is willing to raid military allotted money to build his wall to keep out immigrants and at the same time also propose budget cuts to the most needy, including poor children who benefit from the SNAP program.

On another subject, Trump's personal attorney Barr who should be independent and represent justice for the American people, has shown a clear pattern of supporting Trump's crooked cronies by taking the unprecidented steps of trying to lighten Stone and Flynn's sentences and going after Trump's enemy list...he has investigated Clinton, Comey, McCabe, etc so far to no avail. Barr is corrupt as is Trump.

02/15/20 08:35 AM #10780    


Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I like Biden.He is a good decent man
and I like his foreign policy experience.
Love, joanie

02/15/20 09:53 AM #10781    


Nora Skinker (Morton)

Yes. He certainly represents a more moderate arm of the party but what specifically, do you want to see Biden espouse policy-wise, Joanie? How are he & Bloomberg different in your mind? 

02/15/20 10:30 AM #10782    


Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I like Biden on health care. I like keeping the affordable health care law but expanding on it with the public option. He, like the others is good on climate change which I feel is an existential threat to the world. He would rejoin the Paris accords. I think he would try to renegotiate the Iran Nuclear deal. He would reverse the cruel Trump policies on immigration to come up with a comprehensive immigration reform plan, not involving separating children from parents and leaving assylum seekers in Mexico under poor conditions. He is for everyone to love whoever they choose and he supports all people, black, brown, white, gay, straight,trans, etc....so these are a few of the areas that I like about him. The others agree on most of these issues but I like his foreign policy experience that he has had after 8 years under Obama. Also, I just feel he has extreme empathy shown by his off the cuff interactions with people such as stutterers or others who have lost people. Of course Biden can feel their pain and does, having lost his first wife and little girl in a car accident, and his dear son Beau to brain cancer . He really has a heart and cares.  Love, Joanie

02/15/20 11:59 AM #10783    


Glen Hirose

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02/15/20 12:32 PM #10784    


Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Glen, Looks soooooo yummy.love, Joanie

02/15/20 01:24 PM #10785    


Jack Mallory

I know I live in prime eagle country, just a mile or so from the confluence of two rivers. But sometimes I feel like I'm being followed. Three eagle sightings in less than 48 hours. Today just a hundred meters or so from the house. Walking Tasca at about 7:30 (and 8 degrees), this one was flying low over the river, then up into a tree. Maybe it was carrying a fish--couldn't see, but it kept pecking at something between its talons.


When I got close, it gave me the stink-eye.


Although the hordes of non-Norwegians storming our southern border have plummeted by 70% since spring, IMPOTUS is extending the national emergency in order to pay for the wall Mexico is paying for.

My reaction to his original emergency declaration last year:

"Thinking of you all on this first night of the National Emergency. I hope everyone is safe in their bunkers with food, water, and ammunition laid up for the duration. A Bible would probably be a good thing to have, but don’t go out to get one—it's not safe. If you have Amazon Prime, you can get one delivered within two days—they deliver during Emergencies, although there may be a surcharge.

If in any doubt, probably should also order the Book of Mormon, a Koran, a Torah, the Bhagavad Gita, and, if still useful in your golden years, a copy of the the Kama Sutra: could be a long Emergency, might want some new ideas. Large print for some of you, so you don’t have to worry about finding your reading glasses.

I'm sure the Commander in Chief impressed the gravity of the crisis on all of us when he made it clear in his emergency declaration that he “didn’t need to do this” and that the election is “the only reason we're up here talking about this.” 

As we lie down in our beds tonight, safe behind the sand bags (you have sandbagged your beds, right?), we can at least sleep soundly, knowing that the President is protecting us with the same bravery and commitment he manifested during the war in Vietnam. 

just a minute . . . there are people outside . . . they’re not speaking English . . .

It's ok. They’re blonde, and speaking Norwegian."

02/15/20 02:48 PM #10786    


Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, thanks for sharing those eagle sighting pictures with us. Its so special to see the shots you take. Love, Joanie

02/15/20 05:47 PM #10787    


Nora Skinker (Morton)

Though I was miles from agreeing with most political positions held by Andrew Yang, I will miss his very astute ability to frequently register a warning to his fellow partisans & candidates to resist putting Trump front & center & become more focused on Democratic policies to woo voters.  
Years ago, Biden voted repeatedly for a ban on partial birth abortion. For those who may not know, that is a late-term medical procedure where a baby's body is almost completely delivered breech before the baby's head is punctured & crushed. In 1997, Biden described his feelings about the ban this way: "It did not, as I would have liked, ban all post viability abortions". Since Biden avoids the topic altogether so far in his campaign, I am assuming because less than half of Democrats (34%) are pro-life now, he has not made up his mind about what his position is today. He has apologized for his vote to invade Iraq & I await hearing just how far left he'll fear to tread. On the other hand, he seems to be losing steam & now seems highly dependent on the Black vote in SC to rescue his suffering campaign. I say, "Joe, stop using the phrase, 'I'm the only one who can beat Trump', apologizing for the past, & COMMIT to where you stand on issues!"  IOW, he should listen to Mr. Yang! Twixt thee & me, if Joe doesn't do that quickly, billionaire Bloomberg will swoop in, like one of Jack's eagles, & kick him out of the nest. 
(Rumor is that Bloomberg may ask HRC to be his running mate. O.M.G. Shoot me now.)


02/15/20 07:53 PM #10788    


Joan Ruggles (Young)

Jack you have guns. Will you do us the honor?


02/15/20 08:04 PM #10789    


Jack Mallory

There's going to be tons of bullshit spread in the next 10 months. How about we agree on the Forum not to spread any stories that we can't/won't provide source citations for, that others could use to check the their accuracy? Doesn't mean people can't spread untruths, just that they have to facilitate fact checking. 


02/15/20 08:27 PM #10790    


Helen Lambie (Goldstein)

Nori, if you are going to post rumors from the Drudge Report, be aware what mediabiasfact-check.com says about them, if you care, that is

  • Overall, we rate the Drudge Report Right Biased and Questionable due to promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, as well as for publishing fake news and the use of highly questionable sources.

02/15/20 09:20 PM #10791    


Jack Mallory

Oh, the Drudge Report! No wonder--font of such conspiracy theories as the birtherism, pizzagate, and the Seth Rich murder. Great, the Forum can be Drudge regurgitated. 

02/15/20 10:52 PM #10792    


Nora Skinker (Morton)

Ah, ye olde forum rule change: "no one can say "I heard that...."....no one can share a rumor even if it's deemed a rumor in a post. Too funny! 

Btw, got that scary tidbit from Yahoo news on my iPhone this morning. Did someone assume I got it elsewhere? Imagine that. 
Jack, if you come gunning for me, don't look in DE. I'm in Florida til April. 


02/16/20 07:42 AM #10793    


Jack Mallory

Just an attempt at a mutual agreement to avoid the inaccuracies, exaggerations and lies that are already coming our way, or at the very least facilitate fact checking. No way of enforcing it, so feel free to continue throwing crap at the wall to see if it sticks. 

Don't worry. I'm damned if I'm going to search through all the other old Trumpers in Fl looking for you. 


This is a screening exam used as an initial detector for TBI. 

The Cognitive Exam sections are very similar to the exam I'm given every year as part of the VA Biorepository Brain Bank project, doing research on VETS with ALS,  Gulf War Syndrome, or PTSD. When I'm done with my brain, they'll come and get it. At least I hope they'll wait until I'm done.

Take a look at those Cognitive sections--better yet, have someone give them to you. Just what us old farts need as a reminder that our cognitive functions are fading away. I've taken the exam for about five years, now; they don't score it (or at least they don't TELL you they're scoring it, but you know they do). As an old academic and competitive test taker, I feel like I'm getting graded every time I take it. It feels just like taking SATs or GREs. 

Now, why did I come upstairs?

02/16/20 08:03 AM #10794    


Nora Skinker (Morton)

I hear ya, Jack. Kinda like I feel when I post: graded & degraded. But, hey, am just relieved to know you won't be packing heat & heading to the Florida sun anytime soon.
Aside to Joanie: I know you like Biden but, after his silly scolding of Bernie, I think it's over for old Joe. Who's your second favorite? 
Aside to Glen: damn that Raanta! 698 & holding! 

02/16/20 08:08 AM #10795    


Jack Mallory

I find that being as honest and accurate as possible, providing facts and sources, is actually pretty easy and not at all stressful. Much simpler than remembering words backwards! 

02/16/20 08:28 AM #10796    


Nora Skinker (Morton)

A fact: 

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